Conference Call with IBM on Educational EHR

@rhoyt My expectation was the pilot universities would be testing this for free

Unfortunately its not clear what resources are available from infrastructure - @r0bby has a better sense of what is available

I know @sunbiz has resources in terms of servers that can be used for hosting - I think we need to clarify who are on the Education committee and try and get them to chat together on these issues

I know @downey was following with SFC on the contracting stuff - i am also disappointed that there hasn’t been more support from SFC on these issues

There’s plenty of resources available. The only question I have is if this is a for-cost thing…there are things we should discuss.

The trial for all the universities is free for this Fall - @r0bby these are 3 universities - and we need to set up their installations … What other questions do you have on this - @rhoyt is right we have not been a helpful community for this important task

We need people to test this and get real feedback as we move forward

We should at least offer them the resources and if they have their own servers then they can pay a small setup fee (In this case @rhoyt we may need to enable tracking for stats use in the EMR so you know who is using what and where

I’m not doing anything until things are decided. Somebody will need to be point person and request a server, and tell me what to put on it…if it’s just LibreHealth EHR – I can easily host that on one server.

I will post the results of my conversation with IBM today. I’m afraid that the individual who set up this meeting is looking for a different type of resource than we can offer. I will definitely make the point that Dr. Weiner said IBM needed a training EHR and available data and see where that takes us. If the conversation is a bust, I will look for other partners/grants. Here is the contact information I have for todays teleconference at 1 PM CDT:

When Wed Aug 23, 2017 1pm – 2pm (CDT) Where United States: +1 6463071354,79225230# Canada: +1 6465692553,79225230# Ireland: +353 15251833,79225230# Israel: +972 39786051,79225230# Japan: +81 366302209,79225230# Who Paul Hake/Burlington/IBM, David Allard/Boca Raton/IBM*

I spoke with two IBM engineers today who were primarily interested in finding outpatient notes so they could test their NLP software. I gave them some names of orgs that might sell them de-identified data for their purposes and asked them to reach out to Dr. Weiner again to see if IBM is truly interested in an educational EHR or just blowing smoke.

When I logged into the demo EHR today I noticed that Northern Kentucky University had set up a facility in the demo EHR and invited 15 students in. This was not done with my permission but I have to ask is this a short term solution for our beta testers? Let them create their own facility and invite their students to join??

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Let’s see if this creates any stress on our server. I will monitor the EHR server more closely. They should be aware that any moment, that data can be gone.

I would really prefer they deploy their own instance though, or pay us to maintain it. I don’t quite trust students to not completely throw the demo into a state where we can’t manage it. I would be happy to set up a similar instance to NHANES for them.

@r0bby, Can you please host another instance that is a copy of the NHANES server, so that Northern Kentucky University and other universities that want to use it, can do their classes over it?

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Sure – give me like 5 – I’ll toss up another instance. Please inform the universities to not use our demos like that? I’m going to host it on the same server – There’s no need to deploy another…PHP apps tend to not be that horrible on the system load

Pretty much since June I have asked weekly how we move forward. There are 9 universities that have expressed interest in our project with at least 4 who would like to be beta testers. The problem is that I have been unable to give them any more information because I continue to wait on decisions from the Steering Committee. Just let me know what you want and I will do it. I have not taken off one day this summer in order to make this happen

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@rhoyt,

If they wish to help out, Let me know:

  • The name of the university
  • Do they need an instance hosted?

It would be great if you could also get maybe the professor teaching the course to join the forums and introduce themselves – just so I have a heads up – I suspect I’ll need to pay closer attention during the semester to ensure things are available and uptime is maintained.

Here:

The names:

  • nku = Northern Kentucky University
  • iupui = Indiana University Purdue University-Indianpolis
  • and we know what nhanes is for…

I will start with Dr. Crystal Summers from NKU summersc@nku.edu

I’m sure she used the demo because she heard nothing back from us

Sandra Saperstein has logged into the Forum and made comments. She is from the University of Maryland ssaperst@umd.edu

I will make contact with all the universities and see if they are still interested

You might want to edit the database and remove the ky facility and the users that were added to the original nhanes demo site.

I’ll do that as soon as I hear back from the NKU faculty member who set up the clinic. I did send an email this morning to all of the faculty who expressed interest in LibreHE

in order to ā€œRemoveā€ them It will have to be done with a tool like PHPmyadmin. You can rename the facility and deactivate the created users but you cannot remove them with out editing the database directly or running a query.

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There are other little tools for this stuff as well, such as uploading and loading/switching to a new set of database tables. Ref: data import tool

It is in here:

Please ensure they all join the forums

@rhoyt,

Let’s do this, we’ll take 4 universities initially, 2 are already set up: Northern Kentucky University and University of Maryland.

@r0bby, @tony, @judywawira, @downey @yehster @sunbiz

I have not heard back from the University of Maryland yet (Sandra Saperstein) (Public Health Informatics).

I did hear back from Lake Sumter State College as I indicated in a prior email and gave you her email (Brandy Ziesemer) (Health Information Management). Please add her instance.

I just heard back from Dr. Glenn Mitchell the Director of the Graduate Health Informatics program at Harrisburg Collge. He has physicians in his program GMitchell@harrisburgu.edu

I have not heard back from IUPUI so don’t know who will be using it. Thought it would be Josette Jones but no further correspondence. Perhaps @subiz knows.

I am humbly requesting we include 5 programs but only three have responded thus far to my most recent email: (NKU, Lake Sumter State College and Harrisburg U). This is a wonderful sample of students/faculty who need an educational EHR. To the Steering Committee please consider this. Thanks.

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