# What are the current needs to expand the education project? **URL:** \ **Category:** Education\ **Created:** [January 29, 2018, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.librehealth.io/t/what-are-the-current-needs-to-expand-the-education-project/2067 "2018-01-29T14:16:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![judywawira](https://forums.librehealth.io/user_avatar/forums.librehealth.io/judywawira/32/264_2.png) [@judywawira](https://forums.librehealth.io/u/judywawira)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.librehealth.io/t/what-are-the-current-needs-to-expand-the-education-project/2067/1 "2018-01-29T14:16:52Z")
Thanks @rhoyt and @yehster for leading the education project I set up this topic to brainstorm on the current needs and milestones / plan for the education project here to help prioritize on work that needs to get done From what i remembered there was a discussion on 1. Funding and charging costs 2. Barrier of accessing SQL through phypMyAdmin ---
**Author:** ![teryhill](https://forums.librehealth.io/user_avatar/forums.librehealth.io/teryhill/32/58_2.png) [@teryhill](https://forums.librehealth.io/u/teryhill)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.librehealth.io/t/what-are-the-current-needs-to-expand-the-education-project/2067/2 "2018-01-29T14:17:55Z")
Report and forms generator GSoC project would be a big plus. ---
**Author:** ![r0bby](https://forums.librehealth.io/user_avatar/forums.librehealth.io/r0bby/32/1781_2.png) [@r0bby](https://forums.librehealth.io/u/r0bby)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.librehealth.io/t/what-are-the-current-needs-to-expand-the-education-project/2067/3 "2018-01-29T14:20:00Z")
> [@teryhill](#): > > Report and forms generator GSoC project would be a big plus. This is what I was trying to say was the right idea over phpmyadmin ---
**Author:** ![teryhill](https://forums.librehealth.io/user_avatar/forums.librehealth.io/teryhill/32/58_2.png) [@teryhill](https://forums.librehealth.io/u/teryhill)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.librehealth.io/t/what-are-the-current-needs-to-expand-the-education-project/2067/4 "2018-01-29T14:21:47Z")
But this does not allow the ability to change or correct the actual tables. ---
**Author:** ![rhoyt](https://forums.librehealth.io/user_avatar/forums.librehealth.io/rhoyt/32/93_2.png) [@rhoyt](https://forums.librehealth.io/u/rhoyt)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.librehealth.io/t/what-are-the-current-needs-to-expand-the-education-project/2067/5 "2018-01-29T15:11:08Z")
@judywawira @tony @r0bby @yehster Every month I have asked what is the plan moving forward for the educational project. The only answer I have gotten is MI squared is willing to host LibreHealth EHR with NHANES data at $150/month/university. There has been no other input from the Steering Committee, other than it sounds like phpmyadmin is off the table. I have personally paid @yehster to create more enhancements to the software and then I thought we might advertise it. I am awaiting word from Alfred P. Sloan Foundation regarding a grant, but have not heard back yet. I also contacted Pearson Publishing to see if they would like to be a “partner”, using the EHR to supplement the textbooks and courses they offer on their LMS ---
**Author:** ![teryhill](https://forums.librehealth.io/user_avatar/forums.librehealth.io/teryhill/32/58_2.png) [@teryhill](https://forums.librehealth.io/u/teryhill)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.librehealth.io/t/what-are-the-current-needs-to-expand-the-education-project/2067/6 "2018-01-29T15:22:39Z")
I think If the Infra structure team would allow adminer and implement it it would help with the actual mining of the data. I feel that we have been hand cuffed by their stance on phpmyadmin. ---
**Author:** ![rhoyt](https://forums.librehealth.io/user_avatar/forums.librehealth.io/rhoyt/32/93_2.png) [@rhoyt](https://forums.librehealth.io/u/rhoyt)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.librehealth.io/t/what-are-the-current-needs-to-expand-the-education-project/2067/7 "2018-01-29T16:07:23Z")
Adminer might be a selling point if we can promote LibreHealth EHR with NHANES data for data science exercises ---
**Author:** ![judywawira](https://forums.librehealth.io/user_avatar/forums.librehealth.io/judywawira/32/264_2.png) [@judywawira](https://forums.librehealth.io/u/judywawira)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.librehealth.io/t/what-are-the-current-needs-to-expand-the-education-project/2067/8 "2018-01-29T16:13:06Z")
@rhoyt let me go on record that I am ok with 150 usd … the model really needs to be that anyone who wants to host the service can do it @downey can you advice what this means from the conservancy … in any case I think MI under @tony would be the best hosting service @r0bby May have suggestions but as of this moment we can agree that 150 usd is acceptable If anyone has an issue they can raise it up… decision inertia will kill us ---
**Author:** ![judywawira](https://forums.librehealth.io/user_avatar/forums.librehealth.io/judywawira/32/264_2.png) [@judywawira](https://forums.librehealth.io/u/judywawira)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.librehealth.io/t/what-are-the-current-needs-to-expand-the-education-project/2067/9 "2018-01-29T16:13:55Z")
@rhoyt On a different question do you think we could extend this to involve teaching imaging informatics ? Who would be Potential partners in such an endeavor ? ---
**Author:** ![r0bby](https://forums.librehealth.io/user_avatar/forums.librehealth.io/r0bby/32/1781_2.png) [@r0bby](https://forums.librehealth.io/u/r0bby)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.librehealth.io/t/what-are-the-current-needs-to-expand-the-education-project/2067/10 "2018-01-29T16:17:27Z")
> [@judywawira](#): > > @r0bby May have suggestions but as of this moment we can agree that 150 usd is acceptable $150/mo would cover expenses if we go over(if we ever need to spin up another server) – Currently I’m hosting the site using the EHR demo server. ---
**Author:** ![rhoyt](https://forums.librehealth.io/user_avatar/forums.librehealth.io/rhoyt/32/93_2.png) [@rhoyt](https://forums.librehealth.io/u/rhoyt)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.librehealth.io/t/what-are-the-current-needs-to-expand-the-education-project/2067/11 "2018-01-29T19:08:36Z")
@judywawira If we linked to a PACS system it would be doable. In my judgment, the pool of people involved with imaging informatics training is probably pretty small, compared to e.g. Public Health or Nursing Informatics ---
**Author:** ![r0bby](https://forums.librehealth.io/user_avatar/forums.librehealth.io/r0bby/32/1781_2.png) [@r0bby](https://forums.librehealth.io/u/r0bby)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.librehealth.io/t/what-are-the-current-needs-to-expand-the-education-project/2067/12 "2018-01-29T19:52:54Z")
@rhoyt – we have a PACS server setup running orthanc currently ---
**Author:** ![rhoyt](https://forums.librehealth.io/user_avatar/forums.librehealth.io/rhoyt/32/93_2.png) [@rhoyt](https://forums.librehealth.io/u/rhoyt)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.librehealth.io/t/what-are-the-current-needs-to-expand-the-education-project/2067/13 "2018-01-29T20:06:36Z")
@r0bby Is the PACS server already populated with images? If so how many and where did they come from ---
**Author:** ![r0bby](https://forums.librehealth.io/user_avatar/forums.librehealth.io/r0bby/32/1781_2.png) [@r0bby](https://forums.librehealth.io/u/r0bby)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.librehealth.io/t/what-are-the-current-needs-to-expand-the-education-project/2067/14 "2018-01-29T20:23:10Z")
> [@rhoyt](#): > > @r0bby > > Is the PACS server already populated with images? If so how many and where did they come from Currently, not yet – but it’s up – I don’t know what the state of it is right now. ---
**Author:** ![downey](https://forums.librehealth.io/user_avatar/forums.librehealth.io/downey/32/232_2.png) [@downey](https://forums.librehealth.io/u/downey)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 1:32am UTC](https://forums.librehealth.io/t/what-are-the-current-needs-to-expand-the-education-project/2067/15 "2018-01-30T01:32:17Z")
> [@judywawira](#): > > @downey can you advice what this means from the conservancy … in any case I think MI under @tony would be the best hosting service @judywawira, The question of what any activities ecosystem partners want to take on to serve the community don’t really have a bearing on Conservancy as a fiscal sponsor. The only possible way I could see this being a problem is if somehow the legal entity centrally were to get into some related business such as SaaS. Currently the only role of Conservancy (and as such the project & [@lsc](https://forums.librehealth.io/groups/lsc) itself) is tending to the development of the software projects – nothing more. If that is something seriously being discussed, then yes, Conservancy would have to review & approve such a proposal. But if such activities are going to be taken on by one (or ideally, some day, many) partners, then there’s no review or intervention needed AFAICT. Hope this helps and is the question you were getting at from me. If not please clarify. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![judywawira](https://forums.librehealth.io/user_avatar/forums.librehealth.io/judywawira/32/264_2.png) [@judywawira](https://forums.librehealth.io/u/judywawira)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.librehealth.io/t/what-are-the-current-needs-to-expand-the-education-project/2067/16 "2018-01-30T12:51:55Z")
We are working on this and then will come from the cancer imaging archive @rhoyt did you have suggestions for other sources ? ---
**Author:** ![rhoyt](https://forums.librehealth.io/user_avatar/forums.librehealth.io/rhoyt/32/93_2.png) [@rhoyt](https://forums.librehealth.io/u/rhoyt)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.librehealth.io/t/what-are-the-current-needs-to-expand-the-education-project/2067/17 "2018-01-30T13:45:35Z")
@judywawira Please look at the [Dartmouth Library](https://www.dartmouth.edu/~library/biomed/guides/research/medimages.html) and see if any of the image databases would be useful for imaging informatics ---
**Author:** ![tony](https://forums.librehealth.io/user_avatar/forums.librehealth.io/tony/32/42_2.png) [@tony](https://forums.librehealth.io/u/tony)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.librehealth.io/t/what-are-the-current-needs-to-expand-the-education-project/2067/18 "2018-01-31T20:58:22Z")
I agree with this, in general and as a good citizen any tools I create to help with this process would become part of the project itself. ---
**Author:** ![r0bby](https://forums.librehealth.io/user_avatar/forums.librehealth.io/r0bby/32/1781_2.png) [@r0bby](https://forums.librehealth.io/u/r0bby)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2018, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.librehealth.io/t/what-are-the-current-needs-to-expand-the-education-project/2067/19 "2018-02-01T08:03:26Z")
@tony – if we are doing this – one thing that would be SUPER useful is scripts to migrate the database – so I can just execute them on the server. ---
**Author:** ![tony](https://forums.librehealth.io/user_avatar/forums.librehealth.io/tony/32/42_2.png) [@tony](https://forums.librehealth.io/u/tony)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2018, 10:12pm UTC](https://forums.librehealth.io/t/what-are-the-current-needs-to-expand-the-education-project/2067/20 "2018-02-01T22:12:08Z")
I’m working on scripts for command line setup and migration as we e-speak. [Next page](https://forums.librehealth.io/t/what-are-the-current-needs-to-expand-the-education-project/2067.md?page=2)